thoughts?

[Akay]

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ASUS® ROG STRIX X870-F GAMING WIFI (AM5, DDR5, M.2 PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 7)
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64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz CL30 (2 x 32GB)
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16GB GIGABYTE GEFORCE RTX 5080 GAMING OC - HDMI, 3 x DP
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2TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W)
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[Martinr36]

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[TonyCarter]

As @Martinr36 has intimated, we will need some more info from you before we can give you out thoughts/advice on whether your build is the best value/performance for your usage/budget.

 

[Akay]

1440p 240hz. UE5 gamedev, blender, zbrush and gaming. and budget aint that much of an issue. i just dont want it to cost too much

 

[BlessedSquirrel]

and budget aint that much of an issue. i just dont want it to cost too much

That's great but this is exactly why we asked for a fixed ceiling, we have no idea what "cost too much" means to you, weather that's £12,000 or £600?

The use case you're talking about has no ceiling, the more budget you have available simply unlocks more power, so you could happily spend £100,000 on a system and still benefit from it

And you haven't posted the config link as in the guide.

 

[Akay]

That's great but this is exactly why we asked for a fixed ceiling, we have no idea what "cost too much" means to you, weather that's £12,000 or £600?

The use case you're talking about has no ceiling, the more budget you have available simply unlocks more power, so you could happily spend £100,000 on a system and still benefit from it

And you haven't posted the config link as in the guide.

more like sub 3500 or sub 4000. depends on what gets recommended
https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/6XN4cuj0tW/ i think this is the link

 

[TonyCarter]

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CORSAIR iCUE 5000T LX RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
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AMD Ryzen 9 9950X 16 Core CPU (4.3GHz-5.7GHz/80MB CACHE/AM5) - placeholder for the top-end 9950X3D - due 4th June - which is as good as the 9800X3D in gaming, but twice as many cores for heavier workloads
Motherboard
GIGABYTE X870E AORUS MASTER (AM5, DDR5, M.2 PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 7) - higher quality, higher (870E vs 870) tier than the Strix
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz CL30 (2 x 32GB)
Graphics Card
16GB ZOTAC GEFORCE RTX 5080 SOLID CORE OC - HDMI, 3 x DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB CRUCIAL T500 GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7300MB/sR, 6800MB/sW) - better reputation SSD for Windows/apps
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB CORSAIR CORE XT MP600 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 5000 MB/R, 4400 MB/W) - slightly slower, but very reliable secondary SSD, could even have another as a tertiary SSD just for games
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CORSAIR 1200W HXi SERIES™ ATX 3.1 & 5.1 PCIe MODULAR 80 PLUS® PLATINUM V2 - higher tier PSU for heavy usage and any future GPU upgrade
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1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
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CORSAIR ICUE LINK TITAN 360 RX RGB HIGH PERFORMANCE CPU COOLER
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STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
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6 x Corsair ICUE LINK RX120 RGB PWM Fan + Controller Kit
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ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
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ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
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[Akay]

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000T LX RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X 16 Core CPU (4.3GHz-5.7GHz/80MB CACHE/AM5) - placeholder for the top-end 9950X3D - due 4th June - which is as good as the 9800X3D in gaming, but twice as many cores for heavier workloads
Motherboard
GIGABYTE X870E AORUS MASTER (AM5, DDR5, M.2 PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 7) - higher quality, higher (870E vs 870) tier than the Strix
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz CL30 (2 x 32GB)
Graphics Card
16GB ZOTAC GEFORCE RTX 5080 SOLID CORE OC - HDMI, 3 x DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB CRUCIAL T500 GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7300MB/sR, 6800MB/sW) - better reputation SSD for Windows/apps
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB CORSAIR CORE XT MP600 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 5000 MB/R, 4400 MB/W) - slightly slower, but very reliable secondary SSD, could even have another as a tertiary SSD just for games
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1200W HXi SERIES™ ATX 3.1 & 5.1 PCIe MODULAR 80 PLUS® PLATINUM V2 - higher tier PSU for heavy usage and any future GPU upgrade
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR ICUE LINK TITAN 360 RX RGB HIGH PERFORMANCE CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
6 x Corsair ICUE LINK RX120 RGB PWM Fan + Controller Kit
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NONE OR ONBOARD Wi-Fi (MOTHERBOARD DEPENDENT)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
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United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
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FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
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NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE - Norton is shareware/malware, no need for it on W11
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Google Chrome™
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3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
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STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Price: £3,354.00 including VAT and Delivery - would be £3570 with the 9950X3D
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/Xbb00M8rRQ/

For the ssd i was thinking about using the 2tb one i had on before for most things and the extra one for holding things like ue5 backups and blender files. i also dont really plan on upgrading the gpu. maybe only replacing it unless something alot better is out, at that point tho i would just build an entire new system so i dont see why i would need to get a higher watt psu just for upgrades.
Didnt know the cpu was a thing that wasnt out yet. but if its better then ill run with it

 

[TonyCarter]

No point throwing away a perfectly usable PC for the sake of a new GPU in 3-5 years time. What could be a £1000-£1500 GPU upgrade would become another £4000 complete build.

No issue using your own SSD as a secondary/tertiary drive, but I’d not go bigger than 1TB for the boot drive as otherwise you’ll be tempted to put more stuff on it…which risks losing more stuff if/when it needs rebuilding/resetting. The PCS ones are not known for their longevity and is why I swapped that one out.

 

[BlessedSquirrel]

at that point tho i would just build an entire new system so i dont see why i would need to get a higher watt psu just for upgrades.

I take it this is your first PC? That's a ginormous waste of money and won't net you any better performance, but will cost substantially more, and entirely defeats the purpose of a custom PC. I would strongly advise against this, or if this is the avenue you're going for you'll get far better value from an off the shelf.

Didnt know the cpu was a thing that wasnt out yet. but if its better then ill run with it

It's been out for a while, just ran out of stock temporarily

 

[Akay]

I take it this is your first PC? That's a ginormous waste of money, and entirely defeats the purpose of a custom PC. I would strongly advise against this, or if this is the avenue you're going for you'll get far better value from an off the shelf.


It's been out for a while, just ran out of stock temporarily

when i go to upgrade. im replacing most of the parts at once and its just easier for me to get a new system with the parts that i want. i dont just slowly upgrade cause i havent messed around with parts well enough and last time i did it on one of my old systems, i broke bits and would rather not do that again. I get that its not the most money efficient but i would rather pay a bit extra for it to be put together for me.
didnt know a better cpu was out

 

[BlessedSquirrel]

when i go to upgrade. im replacing most of the parts at once and its just easier for me to get a new system with the parts that i want.

That's what we're saying, you don't get any benefit in upgrading more than 2 parts, doesn't have any impact on system performance.

i dont just slowly upgrade cause i havent messed around with parts well enough and last time i did it on one of my old systems, i broke bits and would rather not do that again.

That's rather the whole point of buying from a system integrator, it's for people that don't want to do it themselves, PCS do it for you if you're uncomfortable.

get that its not the most money efficient but i would rather pay a bit extra for it to be put together for me.

Yes, the point is I think you're coming from a substantial misunderstanding of upgrading and what a system integrator is. Basically your fears don't match reality, so aren't justified if you're buying from an SI like PCS, that’s exactly why you’re paying the premium

 

[Scott]

All the build advice is going to centre around AM5 at this budget. It's the best there is at the moment for a standard desktop platform. The key with selecting a good platform is both current performance and upgrade potential.

My philosophy is that a well specced PC should last at least 10 years from the initial release of the platform. AM5 is in its infancy so there should be at least 5 years in any build, I would expect 10 from mine. The socket is going to be supported right through 2027, this means that when the latest and greatest chips come out in 2027, you can upgrade to this without making any other changes. PCS will do this for you if you aren't comfortable.

The other area that typically gets out performed over time is the GPU. With AM5 being a modern PCie5.0 system, it will support many future GPU upgrades. These cost money, obviously, but you can get significant gains in performance when you consider a 10 year lifespan.

The key to being able to support all of this with minimum fuss is the choices you make right now. The PSU will cover those GPU upgrades as they become more power hungry over the years. The cooler on the system will support the CPU upgrades as they potentially increase the TDP for more performance.

Every single component is chosen very carefully if it interlinks with other components. Going for a high end build with room to upgrade means spending approx 50% of the money per re-cycle stage (CPU & GPU). In reality, you rarely need to do both, with the CPU likely to only want an upgrade once or twice in the entire life of the PC. The GPU, you could stay on top of bi-annually if you wished.

 

[BlessedSquirrel]

All the build advice is going to centre around AM5 at this budget. It's the best there is at the moment for a standard desktop platform. The key with selecting a good platform is both current performance and upgrade potential.

My philosophy is that a well specced PC should last at least 10 years from the initial release of the platform. AM5 is in its infancy so there should be at least 5 years in any build, I would expect 10 from mine. The socket is going to be supported right through 2027, this means that when the latest and greatest chips come out in 2027, you can upgrade to this without making any other changes. PCS will do this for you if you aren't comfortable.

The other area that typically gets out performed over time is the GPU. With AM5 being a modern PCie5.0 system, it will support many future GPU upgrades. These cost money, obviously, but you can get significant gains in performance when you consider a 10 year lifespan.

The key to being able to support all of this with minimum fuss is the choices you make right now. The PSU will cover those GPU upgrades as they become more power hungry over the years. The cooler on the system will support the CPU upgrades as they potentially increase the TDP for more performance.

Every single component is chosen very carefully if it interlinks with other components. Going for a high end build with room to upgrade means spending approx 50% of the money per re-cycle stage (CPU & GPU). In reality, you rarely need to do both, with the CPU likely to only want an upgrade once or twice in the entire life of the PC. The GPU, you could stay on top of bi-annually if you wished.

If only I could formulate thoughts in this way - perfectly put!